LIVE @ ERE: Ron Fish & Kevin Grossman: Building Diverse TA Strategies

Recorded LIVE @ ERE Recruitment Conference. Anaheim, CA November 2024

Ron Fish:
As a Global Talent Acquisition Leader at Ivanti with over 20 years of experience building Talent Attraction and Recruitment programs, Ron Fish specializes in partnering with business stakeholders during the hiring lifecycle. He is responsible for driving initiatives that deliver top talent globally and leading geographically dispersed teams across the Americas, EMEA, and APAC regions. By empowering recruiters, Ron builds teams of independent thinkers who serve as trusted talent advisors. In addition to championing an intentional approach to diversity recruitment, he serves as an ambassador for accessibility and disability inclusion.

In this conversation, Adam and Ron discuss the importance of creating an inclusive workplace for individuals with disabilities, sharing personal stories and experiences, and highlighting the need for awareness and understanding. Ron emphasizes the role of talent acquisition professionals in promoting disability inclusion and the impact of creating a welcoming culture. They also explore best practices for organizations of all sizes, the importance of data in decision-making, and the future of recruiting in the age of AI.

Connect with him on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronfish/

Kevin Grossman:

Kevin W. Grossman is the VP of Research at ERE Media, responsible for talent acquisition and candidate experience research. Formerly President of the Talent Board and the Candidate Experience Awards, the CandE Benchmark Research Program merged with ERE Media in 2023. The CandEs, as they’re known, were the first research organization to focus on elevating and promoting a quality candidate experience.

Kevin has over 25 years of domain expertise in the human resource and talent acquisition industry and related technology marketplace. He’s been a prolific industry writer since 2004. His first business book on career management, Tech Job Hunt Handbook, was released in December 2012 from Apress. His second book, Candidate Experience: How to Improve Talent Acquisition to Drive Business Performance, was co-authored with Adela Schoolderman, a long-time TA professional, and released in 2022 by Kogan Page.

In this conversation, Adam and Kevin focus on the importance of candidate experience in recruitment. They discuss the challenges candidates face, the impact of resentment on employer branding, and the significance of communication throughout the hiring process. The conversation also touches on the effects of the pandemic on candidate experiences and looks ahead to trends in recruitment for 2025.

Connect with Kevin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwgrossman/

Thanks to our friends at ERE for hosting us. Learn more: https://www.eremedia.com/

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Chapters
Ron:
00:00 Introduction to Disability Inclusion and Accessibility
02:57 The Journey to Championing Disability Inclusion
06:05 Personal Stories and Their Impact on Inclusion
09:00 Creating an Inclusive Workplace Culture
11:56 Best Practices for Organizations of All Sizes
14:49 Data-Driven Decisions in Talent Acquisition
17:51 The Future of Recruiting and AI's Role
Kevin
17:55 Introduction to Candidate Experience Research
20:42 The Importance of Candidate Experience
23:51 Understanding Resentment in Candidate Experience
26:54 Enhancing the Interview Process
29:42 Impact of the Pandemic on Candidate Experience
32:39 Looking Ahead: Trends for 2025